How Sad!!

[Marilee M]

This use to be a vibrant active group and enjoyable to read and learn
from, it is sad to see it slowly fading away!! What happened to all
the gals that posted? I will admit I seldom posted, as a friend had
asked a question and got blasted for not doing her homework herself.
She was on WebTV as I am and you don't have access to many sites as you
do with a PC.
I just want to thank all of you for the info and tips I received here
over the good times.
Marilee

[Shirley Shone]

Post by Marilee M
This use to be a vibrant active group and enjoyable to read and learn
from, it is sad to see it slowly fading away!! What happened to all
the gals that posted? I will admit I seldom posted, as a friend had
asked a question and got blasted for not doing her homework herself.
She was on WebTV as I am and you don't have access to many sites as you
do with a PC.
I just want to thank all of you for the info and tips I received here
over the good times.
Marilee

I was thinking also how sad it is. Yesterday was the first time since I
joined this group about 12 years ago, that there were zero messages.

I tried to rally support a few weeks ago with having a roll call. It got
a few responses, but nothing like it would have had when it was in its
heyday.

[Marilee M]

Good morning Shirley! Well have no idea what time it is in England, but
whatever hope this finds you feeling good. I know you have tried to
revive the group and I truly thought you might have succeeded but after
a few posts, Nothing!!! I do beaded cabs but have to admit so busy
trying to clear out years of craft supplies that haven't touched a bead
(except to buy more) for months!!!! It is an addiction!!!
Marilee

[Linda2]

I've been busy working and trying to organize my crafts room (which is
finally done - where did all that stuff come from?). I've got my annual show
to do in November, and hoepfully quite a bit of inventory will sell. I
haven't bought much lately, because I'll never been able to use all the
beads I have in this lifetime or the next! But I still check in here every
now and then.

Also busy with my rescued pound kitty and a new kitten a neighbor found and
brought to me (she knows I missed the one I had to have put down after 14
years). I have videos on My Space if anyone wants to see.

Linda2

Post by Marilee M
Good morning Shirley! Well have no idea what time it is in England, but
whatever hope this finds you feeling good. I know you have tried to
revive the group and I truly thought you might have succeeded but after
a few posts, Nothing!!! I do beaded cabs but have to admit so busy
trying to clear out years of craft supplies that haven't touched a bead
(except to buy more) for months!!!! It is an addiction!!!
Marilee

[Heather]

It is sad for us "new folks" too because we can't take advantage of your
collective knowledge, etc . Not to mention you ladies used to have such
a good time enjoying each other's company.

Now.......that is truly sad. To go from a fun, busy ng to one where
people rarely post.

Cheers....Heather (and best wishes to Shirley as well)

Post by Linda2
I've been busy working and trying to organize my crafts room (which is
finally done - where did all that stuff come from?). I've got my
annual show to do in November, and hoepfully quite a bit of inventory
will sell. I haven't bought much lately, because I'll never been able
to use all the beads I have in this lifetime or the next! But I still
check in here every now and then.
Also busy with my rescued pound kitty and a new kitten a neighbor
found and brought to me (she knows I missed the one I had to have put
down after 14 years). I have videos on My Space if anyone wants to
see.
Linda2

Post by Marilee M
Good morning Shirley! Well have no idea what time it is in England, but
whatever hope this finds you feeling good. I know you have tried to
revive the group and I truly thought you might have succeeded but after
a few posts, Nothing!!! I do beaded cabs but have to admit so busy
trying to clear out years of craft supplies that haven't touched a bead
(except to buy more) for months!!!! It is an addiction!!!
Marilee

[Marilee M]

I don't think I can view your videos on this web tv and I very seldom
use my lap top, not too good at any of this new stuff!! Will try later
though.
Marilee

[Marilee M]

I am an older lady and have done crafts for years and have all the
supplies to prove it, I use to make stuffed dolls, teddy bears,
appliqued sweat shirts and other fabric crafts and did several shows a
year. About 6 years ago while at Quartzsite, Ariz. a good friend started
me making beaded cabs, I really enjoy working with the seed beads. This
year she showed me how to make the cutest Santa ear rings, that is my
next get around to it!!!
Marilee

[Linda2]

Since the crafts show I do is in November, I make tons of beaded Santa
earrings and they are the first to go. I usually have to try and make more
in between show days (it's a 2-day show).

Linda2

Post by Marilee M
I am an older lady and have done crafts for years and have all the
supplies to prove it, I use to make stuffed dolls, teddy bears,
appliqued sweat shirts and other fabric crafts and did several shows a
year. About 6 years ago while at Quartzsite, Ariz. a good friend started
me making beaded cabs, I really enjoy working with the seed beads. This
year she showed me how to make the cutest Santa ear rings, that is my
next get around to it!!!
Marilee

[Marilee M]

I wonder if it is the same pattern, think she said this was the brick
stitch (I'm not too smart when it comes to this beading, I have done
mostly the beaded cabs), it has a little bell on the tassle on Santa's
hat! where do you live Linda?
Marilee

[Linda2]

Mine are done in brick stitch as well, but no bells.

I live in Fort Lauderdale, FL.

Linda2

Post by Marilee M
I wonder if it is the same pattern, think she said this was the brick
stitch (I'm not too smart when it comes to this beading, I have done
mostly the beaded cabs), it has a little bell on the tassle on Santa's
hat! where do you live Linda?
Marilee

[Shirley Shone]

Post by Marilee M
Good morning Shirley! Well have no idea what time it is in England, but
whatever hope this finds you feeling good. I know you have tried to
revive the group and I truly thought you might have succeeded but after
a few posts, Nothing!!! I do beaded cabs but have to admit so busy
trying to clear out years of craft supplies that haven't touched a bead
(except to buy more) for months!!!! It is an addiction!!!
Marilee

Well it is morning now and I have just struggled to get up.

I too have done many crafts in the past and am trying to get rid of some
of the things I have. I know I shall never do some of them anymore.

Since my health as deteriorated over the last 18 months. Been rushed in
hospital 5 times with heart problems. I have another cross to bear.

The results of my MRI scan two weeks ago showed that I have a bulging
disc in my spine in the lumber region. That is the cause of the
excruciating back and leg pains I have been suffering for 10 months.
The only solution is surgery but alas my heart may not stand up to it.
A tough decision to make, risk my life or be in pain for the rest of it.
I have been to an osteopath but he cannot help me.

So I keep myself busy with Genealogy and occasional beadwork.

Any one can feel free to e-mail me and I will reply when I can.
Address below,
Hugs
Shirley

[Dwyn]

well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.

I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!) which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!

Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.

My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

[Shirley Shone]

In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!) which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk

We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and exchanging
them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of beads
to someone we thought needed when.

I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.

We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt or
mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them in
parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.

How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will be.

I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can look
up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley

[Dwyn]

Post by Shirley Shone
We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and exchanging
them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of beads
to someone we thought needed when.
I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt or
mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them in
parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will be.

How cool is that? I really do find that bead people are the best!

I think there is a lot of dilution now - there are so many forums and
places and ways to share online - you can't do them all - and news
groups, unfortunately - just aren't as sexy or user accessible as
thinks like, say - Facebook, blogs, etc.

[Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc]

Post by Dwyn
I think there is a lot of dilution now - there are so many forums and
places and ways to share online - you can't do them all - and news
groups, unfortunately - just aren't as sexy or user accessible as
thinks like, say - Facebook, blogs, etc.

Yes, but, I see that as an added complication. I used to come here and
get answers for just about anything, sometimes not even bead related.

Very recently I had some kiln questions, like about what I have to
do and what I should do
- before turning my kiln on for the first time
- before putting beads in for the first time
(those two aren't necessarily the same thing).
As all the lampworkers are mostly gone from here I posted at bot
Lampwork Etc. and WetCanvas and now will pull the replies together
and make up my own mind.

It used to be much easier when there was one place.
I do have a blog, but so far I have stayed away from facebook, etc.

Aloha,
Maren
HiloBeads: Beads - Beading Supplies - Hand-made Jewelry
http://www.hilobeads.com/
Blog at: http://hilobeads.blogspot.com/

[Dwyn]

On Jul 8, 4:28 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Dwyn
I think there is a lot of dilution now - there are so many forums and
places and ways to share online - you can't do them all - and news
groups, unfortunately - just aren't as sexy or user accessible as
thinks like, say - Facebook, blogs, etc.

Yes, but, I see that as an added complication. I used to come here and
get answers for just about anything, sometimes not even bead related.
Very recently I had some kiln questions, like about what I have to
do and what I should do
- before turning my kiln on for the first time
- before putting beads in for the first time
(those two aren't necessarily the same thing).
As all the lampworkers are mostly gone from here I posted at bot
Lampwork Etc. and WetCanvas and now will pull the replies together
and make up my own mind.
It used to be much easier when there was one place.
I do have a blog, but so far I have stayed away from facebook, etc.
Aloha,
Maren
HiloBeads: Beads - Beading Supplies - Hand-made Jewelryhttp://www.hilobeads.com/
Blog at:http://hilobeads.blogspot.com/

Before turning on your kiln for the first time?

Make sure you remove all the packing material! Like the styrofoam. Hoo
boy! Been there - burned that!

<VBG>

[Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc]

Post by Dwyn
On Jul 8, 4:28 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Dwyn
I think there is a lot of dilution now - there are so many forums and
places and ways to share online - you can't do them all - and news
groups, unfortunately - just aren't as sexy or user accessible as
thinks like, say - Facebook, blogs, etc.

Yes, but, I see that as an added complication. I used to come here and
get answers for just about anything, sometimes not even bead related.

[...]

Post by Dwyn

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc
It used to be much easier when there was one place.
I do have a blog, but so far I have stayed away from facebook, etc.

Before turning on your kiln for the first time?
Make sure you remove all the packing material! Like the styrofoam. Hoo
boy! Been there - burned that!
<VBG>

was wondering whether I should take the vacuum to it.
You just told me I should. You're the first one to tell me that too.
Don't want to get all the neighbors scared (it'll be outside, as
my torch is).

Thank you!
Maren
HiloBeads: Beads - Beading Supplies - Hand-made Jewelry
http://www.hilobeads.com/
Blog at: http://hilobeads.blogspot.com/

[Dwyn]

On Jul 9, 10:19 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Dwyn
On Jul 8, 4:28 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Dwyn
I think there is a lot of dilution now - there are so many forums and
places and ways to share online - you can't do them all - and news
groups, unfortunately - just aren't as sexy or user accessible as
thinks like, say - Facebook, blogs, etc.

Yes, but, I see that as an added complication. I used to come here and
get answers for just about anything, sometimes not even bead related.

[...]

Post by Dwyn

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc
It used to be much easier when there was one place.
I do have a blog, but so far I have stayed away from facebook, etc.

Before turning on your kiln for the first time?
Make sure you remove all the packing material! Like the styrofoam. Hoo
boy! Been there - burned that!
<VBG>

was wondering whether I should take the vacuum to it.
You just told me I should. You're the first one to tell me that too.
Don't want to get all the neighbors scared (it'll be outside, as
my torch is).
Thank you!
Maren
HiloBeads: Beads - Beading Supplies - Hand-made Jewelryhttp://www.hilobeads.com/
Blog at:http://hilobeads.blogspot.com/

Well - I've actually turned on a new kiln w/o opening it up and
pulling out the big styrofoam block - I figured it out before it got
too nasty! But that was a close one. It's not essential to vacuum it
out before first use - depending on the condition of it - but won't
hurt either. It will smell a little odd for the first firing or two.

As you use your kiln, you will get some stuff accumulating in the
bottom, like bead release that may fall off mandrels, etc. I keep a
miniature dustpan and brush and sweep it out occasionally - you can
vacuum too - I just never have the vacuum in that room. I'm leary of
doing anything around my glass that kicks up dust, in case I pick up
glass particulate and put it in the air to be breathed. I seldom use
enamels, for instance, but I prefer gentle sweeping to vacuuming. If
you are set up outside - then no worries.

Many kiln manufacturers recommend painting a layer of kiln wash in the
bottom of the kiln, in case you have a meltdown one day - like the
kiln controller fails and melts all your beads into a big blob on the
floor of the kiln. I personally have never gotten around to it and
it's not really high on my list of things to accomplish. Alternately -
you can put a kiln shelf in the bottom. Again - I just don't bother.

It must be nice to be able to set up outside. Totally takes care of
the ventilation! Here, for the 3 days of the year when we have nice
weather - I'm not at the torch! I also need to work in a fairly
darkish room so I can read the heat in the bead.

[Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc]

Post by Dwyn
On Jul 9, 10:19 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc
Well - I've actually turned on a new kiln w/o opening it up and
pulling out the big styrofoam block - I figured it out before it got
too nasty! But that was a close one. It's not essential to vacuum it
out before first use - depending on the condition of it - but won't
hurt either. It will smell a little odd for the first firing or two.

oooh, ouch

Post by Dwyn
Many kiln manufacturers recommend painting a layer of kiln wash in the
bottom of the kiln, in case you have a meltdown one day - like the
kiln controller fails and melts all your beads into a big blob on the
floor of the kiln. I personally have never gotten around to it and
it's not really high on my list of things to accomplish. Alternately -
you can put a kiln shelf in the bottom. Again - I just don't bother.

I probably will put some kiln wash.

Post by Dwyn
It must be nice to be able to set up outside. Totally takes care of
the ventilation! Here, for the 3 days of the year when we have nice
weather - I'm not at the torch! I also need to work in a fairly
darkish room so I can read the heat in the bead.

I have a problem with too much light, not being able to see the flame
is part of the problem - and then you get eaten alive by mosquitoes
here. But, the ventilation is taken care of. I only have one solid
wall,
the other 3 are open.

Aloha,
Maren
HiloBeads: Beads - Beading Supplies - Hand-made Jewelry
http://www.hilobeads.com/
Blog at: http://hilobeads.blogspot.com/

[Dwyn]

On Jul 10, 8:39 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc
I have a problem with too much light, not being able to see the flame
is part of the problem - and then you get eaten alive by mosquitoes
here. But, the ventilation is taken care of. I only have one solid
wall,
the other 3 are open.

Yes - I have experienced that too. Even in a sunlight room. Burned the
snot out of everything. That's why I like my darkened cave!

But it is very satisfying, in a weird, sadistic way - when the bugs
fly into the flame and sizzle! Die, mosquitos, Die! ;-)

Oh dear - I've probably revealed too much! ;-)

[Tina]

I agree. I much prefer using a newsgroup of like-minded people insted
of facebook, blogs and all he other places to go.

Tina


On Jul 8, 12:28 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Post by Dwyn
I think there is a lot of dilution now - there are so many forums and
places and ways to share online - you can't do them all - and news
groups, unfortunately - just aren't as sexy or user accessible as
thinks like, say - Facebook, blogs, etc.

Yes, but, I see that as an added complication. I used to come here and
get answers for just about anything, sometimes not even bead related.
Very recently I had some kiln questions, like about what I have to
do and what I should do
- before turning my kiln on for the first time
- before putting beads in for the first time
(those two aren't necessarily the same thing).
As all the lampworkers are mostly gone from here I posted at bot
Lampwork Etc. and WetCanvas and now will pull the replies together
and make up my own mind.
It used to be much easier when there was one place.
I do have a blog, but so far I have stayed away from facebook, etc.
Aloha,
Maren
HiloBeads: Beads - Beading Supplies - Hand-made Jewelryhttp://www.hilobeads.com/
Blog at:http://hilobeads.blogspot.com/

[~Candace~]

You had to mention the wand swap, and that brought me out of the
woodwork, Shirley:) I can't recall who got my wand, but man do I feel
bad for them. It was so terrible!!! I used poly clay...and let's just
say that I should have waited a year or two before attempting to make
anything out of that medium, for anyone but myself! LOL I still have
the lovely wand that was sent to me, tho...a beautifully bead-soup
beaded hairstick, that I do use in my hair for a bit of a pick me up:)

My thoughts are with you, my friend, and yes, I still want to be you
when I grow up;)

~Candace~

Post by Shirley Shone
In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!) which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk
We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and exchanging
them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of beads
to someone we thought needed when.
I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt or
mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them in
parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will be.
I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can look
up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley

[Shirley Shone]

Dear Candace, it does my heart good to see you post.

You can be me but without the health problems, I would not wish them on
anyone.

Arondelle made my wand and I made one for Tina.
My wand sits alongside of me as I type.

Hugs to you my dear friend.
Shirley

Post by ~Candace~
You had to mention the wand swap, and that brought me out of the
woodwork, Shirley:) I can't recall who got my wand, but man do I feel
bad for them. It was so terrible!!! I used poly clay...and let's just
say that I should have waited a year or two before attempting to make
anything out of that medium, for anyone but myself! LOL I still have
the lovely wand that was sent to me, tho...a beautifully bead-soup
beaded hairstick, that I do use in my hair for a bit of a pick me up:)
My thoughts are with you, my friend, and yes, I still want to be you
when I grow up;)
~Candace~

Post by Shirley Shone
In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!) which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk
We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and
exchanging them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of
beads to someone we thought needed when.
I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt
or mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them
in parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will be.
I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can
look up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley

[Kathy King]

Post by Shirley Shone
Dear Candace, it does my heart good to see you post.
  You can be me but without the health problems, I would not wish them on
anyone.
Arondelle made my wand and I made one for Tina.
My wand sits alongside of me as I type.
Hugs to you my dear friend.
Shirley

Post by ~Candace~
You had to mention the wand swap, and that brought me out of the
woodwork, Shirley:)  I can't recall who got my wand, but man do I feel
bad for them.  It was so terrible!!!  I used poly clay...and let's just
say that I should have waited a year or two before attempting to make
anything out of that medium, for anyone but myself!  LOL  I still have
the lovely wand that was sent to me, tho...a beautifully bead-soup
beaded hairstick, that I do use in my hair for a bit of a pick me up:)
My thoughts are with you, my friend, and yes, I still want to be you
when I grow up;)
~Candace~

Post by Shirley Shone
In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!)  which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

 Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk
 We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and
exchanging  them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of
beads  to someone we thought needed when.
 I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
 We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt
or  mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them
in  parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
 How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will
be.
 I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can
look  up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley

--
Shirley Shone
- Show quoted text -

Hey Shirley!!!!

Sorry to hear about your health problems. Know that I am sending
soft, gentle, hugs your way!

Kathy K (KDK)

[Shirley Shone]

In message

Post by Kathy King

Post by Shirley Shone
Dear Candace, it does my heart good to see you post.
  You can be me but without the health problems, I would not wish them on
anyone.
Arondelle made my wand and I made one for Tina.
My wand sits alongside of me as I type.
Hugs to you my dear friend.
Shirley

Post by ~Candace~
You had to mention the wand swap, and that brought me out of the
woodwork, Shirley:)  I can't recall who got my wand, but man do I feel
bad for them.  It was so terrible!!!  I used poly clay...and let's just
say that I should have waited a year or two before attempting to make
anything out of that medium, for anyone but myself!  LOL  I still have
the lovely wand that was sent to me, tho...a beautifully bead-soup
beaded hairstick, that I do use in my hair for a bit of a pick me up:)
My thoughts are with you, my friend, and yes, I still want to be you
when I grow up;)
~Candace~

Post by Shirley Shone
In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!)  which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

 Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk
 We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and
exchanging  them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of
beads  to someone we thought needed when.
 I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
 We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt
or  mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them
in  parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
 How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will
be.
 I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can
look  up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley

--
Shirley Shone
- Show quoted text -

Hey Shirley!!!!
Sorry to hear about your health problems. Know that I am sending
soft, gentle, hugs your way!
Kathy K (KDK)

Thanks very much Kathy.
Hugs
Shirley

[Kathy King]

Post by ~Candace~
You had to mention the wand swap, and that brought me out of the
woodwork, Shirley:)  I can't recall who got my wand, but man do I feel
bad for them.  It was so terrible!!!  I used poly clay...and let's just
say that I should have waited a year or two before attempting to make
anything out of that medium, for anyone but myself!  LOL  I still have
the lovely wand that was sent to me, tho...a beautifully bead-soup
beaded hairstick, that I do use in my hair for a bit of a pick me up:)
My thoughts are with you, my friend, and yes, I still want to be you
when I grow up;)
~Candace~

Post by Shirley Shone
In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!)  which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk
We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and exchanging
them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of beads
to someone we thought needed when.
I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt or
mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them in
parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will be.
I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can look
up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I go the wand candace! And i's really noit hat bad - I haveit one
the dash of my car with my other car decorations!

And yeah Shirley's post about he wand swap got my attention too - that
I saw on LE (I think ) a mentionb of good ol rcb!

I have pics from the wand swap I'll see if I can find the link!

Kathy K (KDK)

[Kathy King]

Post by ~Candace~
You had to mention the wand swap, and that brought me out of the
woodwork, Shirley:)  I can't recall who got my wand, but man do I feel
bad for them.  It was so terrible!!!  I used poly clay...and let's just
say that I should have waited a year or two before attempting to make
anything out of that medium, for anyone but myself!  LOL  I still have
the lovely wand that was sent to me, tho...a beautifully bead-soup
beaded hairstick, that I do use in my hair for a bit of a pick me up:)
My thoughts are with you, my friend, and yes, I still want to be you
when I grow up;)
~Candace~

Post by Shirley Shone
In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!)  which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk
We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and exchanging
them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of beads
to someone we thought needed when.
I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt or
mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them in
parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will be.
I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can look
up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I go the wand candace!  And i's really noit hat bad - I haveit one
the dash of my car with my other car decorations!
And yeah Shirley's post about he wand swap got my attention too - that
I  saw on LE (I think ) a mentionb of good ol rcb!
I have pics from the wand swap  I'll see if I can find the link!
Kathy K (KDK)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

and I still can't type!!!!!!

[~Candace~]

Ohhhhhhhh, Kathy. Someday, I will make you a new wand, I promise. (I
could even use poly clay again and have it come out well this time!
hahahaha)

Post by Kathy King
I go the wand candace! And i's really noit hat bad - I haveit one
the dash of my car with my other car decorations!
And yeah Shirley's post about he wand swap got my attention too - that
I saw on LE (I think ) a mentionb of good ol rcb!
I have pics from the wand swap I'll see if I can find the link!
Kathy K (KDK)

[Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc]

On Jul 9, 11:32 am, Kathy King <***@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

Post by Kathy King
Kathy K (KDK)

took a while, but finally clicked ...

[Tina]

I treasure my Shirley spoon.

Tina

Post by Shirley Shone
In message

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!)  which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

Welcome to the group, so good of you to de-lurk
We used to be really active, more than a 1000 posts at one time.
We had great fun doing swaps, making bracelets, necklaces and exchanging
them. Also had a wand swap.
Then we had BFNR ( beads for no reason) when we sent a package of beads
to someone we thought needed when.
I actually got the first package but it really was for a reason that
time. It was when I had the 6 stents put in my heart.
The card said From our hearts to your heart. I still have it and also
still a lot of the beads that came with it. Some are in jewellery and
other I still fondle.
We had a Shirley's Spoon club whereby I used to send an antique salt or
mustard spoon used for scooping up beads. I used to enclosed them in
parcels. I would get them from antique fairs.
How I wish that those day were back but I doubt if they ever will be.
I have a RCB gallery of peoples photos over my work bench and I can look
up and see them every day.
Hugs
Shirley
--
Shirley Shone

[Tina]

Effort to stop? Then don't . Tell us more. Can you show us some of
your lampwork?

Where is Beadfx, geographically? OK, I checked. Scarborough. We
really do need LBSs (Local Bead Stores), even though we can get most
of our needs met on line for cheaper. If we don't patronize them we
won't have them when we need them.

What kind of dogs do you have? Ours is a 17 year old Queensland
Heeler. What a crazy, bite-y dog!

Tina

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!)  which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

[Tina]

Hey Dwyn, I found some of your beads.
http://www.beadfx.com/inspirations/inspirations.php?id=155

And what are these mood change beads? I've never heard of them
before. I think they're cool but wouldn't want them to have such a
wide range of changes. Loading Image...

Tina

Effort to stop?  Then don't .  Tell us more.  Can you show us some of
your lampwork?
Where is Beadfx, geographically?  OK,  I checked.  Scarborough.  We
really do need LBSs (Local Bead Stores), even though we can get most
of our needs met on line for cheaper.  If we don't patronize them we
won't have them when we need them.
What kind of dogs do you have?  Ours is a 17 year old Queensland
Heeler.  What a crazy, bite-y dog!
Tina

Post by Dwyn
well - I thought I'd de-lurk and say hi. I didn't realize that this
used to be a very active list - I'm sure I don't remember subscribing
to it - but I started getting little emails that there were posts. I
was very sorry to hear about the passing of Shannon Hill - I'm glad
someone posted it here.
I'm a lampworker in Canada - my interesting in beads and jewelry
started when I used to collect vintage costume jewelry and has sort of
gotten out of hand from there! I am closely associated with beadfx.com
- (disclosure - but I really do believe in the store so when I
recommend it - it is truly heartfelt!)  which is a bead store in
Canada. It's online and a brick and mortar store - I do the website
and also teach lampworking classes. And I'm should be actually writing
my Monday blog post instead of reading here!
Shirley - you have my deepest sympathy on the heart and back thing.
That's a scary place to be - but you are right - living in pain is no
way to go.
My other obsession is dogs - I have 3. You have no idea what an effort
it is to stop there and not say more. ;-)

[Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc]

Hey Dwyn,  I found some of your beads.http://www.beadfx.com/inspirations/inspirations.php?id=155
And what are these mood change beads?  I've never heard of them
before.  I think they're cool but wouldn't want them to have such a
wide range of changes.  http://www.beadfx.com/images/s15579.jpg

Oooh, neat! Thanks Tina.
Gorgeous beads, Dwyn - gorgeous necklace too.

Aloha,
Maren
HiloBeads: Beads - Beading Supplies - Hand-made Jewelry
http://www.hilobeads.com/
Blog at: http://hilobeads.blogspot.com/

[Dwyn]

On Jul 11, 10:50 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Hey Dwyn,  I found some of your beads.http://www.beadfx.com/inspirations/inspirations.php?id=155
And what are these mood change beads?  I've never heard of them
before.  I think they're cool but wouldn't want them to have such a
wide range of changes.  http://www.beadfx.com/images/s15579.jpg

The "mood" stuff was big in the 70's - my understanding is that it is
a heat sensitive liquid crystal. You see the same thing available as a
level indicator for propane tanks (magnetic strip - stick to the tank
- pour hot water along it - where the colour change is indicates the
level in the tank) and wine temp indicators. In the 70's - it was made
into cheap and nasty jewelry that indicated your mood - black = cold,
brown, warming - yada yada blue = passionate. Hey - it was the 70's.

These beads are current - and are nice quality - nice and shiny and
the colour change is very dramatic. Because of the science involved -
I don't believe there are any that have more controlled colour
changes.

For just two-colour changes - there are the colour shift glasses - but
they don't respond to body temperature - just different types of light
- usually sunlight vs indoor light.

I'm a big fan of the science behind the bead!

[Tina]

Yeah, I remember the mood rings. They never had very good colors.
And these beads look nice, but I like having more control of the
colours in a composition than a range from purple through to orange!
What colour shift beads are there besides the "alexandrite"? I'd love
something in the blue green range but have never seen that.

I didn't know about the propane tank level indicators. And you say
they use that technology for wind-chill? Fairbanks, and especially my
place, has very little wind, so I've never really paid much attention
to that. But you get that nasty wind off Lake Superior in
Scarborough, don't you.

Tina

Post by Dwyn
On Jul 11, 10:50 pm, Maren aka HiloBeads or PalmsEtc

Hey Dwyn,  I found some of your beads.http://www.beadfx.com/inspirations/inspirations.php?id=155
And what are these mood change beads?  I've never heard of them
before.  I think they're cool but wouldn't want them to have such a
wide range of changes.  http://www.beadfx.com/images/s15579.jpg

The "mood" stuff was big in the 70's - my understanding is that it is
a heat sensitive liquid crystal. You see the same thing available as a
level indicator for propane tanks (magnetic strip - stick to the tank
- pour hot water along it - where the colour change is indicates the
level in the tank) and wine temp indicators. In the 70's - it was made
into cheap and nasty jewelry that indicated your mood - black = cold,
brown, warming - yada yada blue = passionate. Hey - it was the 70's.
These beads are current - and are nice quality - nice and shiny and
the colour change is very dramatic. Because of the science involved -
I don't believe there are any that have more controlled colour
changes.
For just two-colour changes - there are the colour shift glasses - but
they don't respond to body temperature - just different types of light
- usually sunlight vs indoor light.
I'm a big fan of the science behind the bead!

[Dwyn]

Yeah, I remember the mood rings.  They never had very good colors.
And these beads look nice, but I like having more control of the
colours in a composition than a range from purple through to orange!
What colour shift beads are there besides the "alexandrite"?  I'd love
something in the blue green range but have never seen that.
I didn't know about the propane tank level indicators.  And you say
they use that technology for wind-chill?  Fairbanks, and especially my
place, has very little wind, so I've never really paid much attention
to that.  But you get that nasty wind off Lake Superior in
Scarborough, don't you.

Did I say wind-chill? Oops - WINE-temperature. What a difference one
measly letter makes! LOL

In glass - Alexandrite - blue to mauve. Effetre calls it Lavendar, I
think. Two shades - the darker one is really nice - beautiful for
encasing - as it doesn't scum. Gorgeous glass.

There is also a pink / green shift in the bullseye glass - Called
Rhubarb.

Swarovski beads have the Alexandrite blue pink shift. and they have a
colour called Cantalope that is a green pink shift that also looks
greyish in some lights.

CiM glass has Larkspur and Count Von Count is pink / blue. And Crocus
is a pink green shift.

And I recently ran across some commercial beads shaped like coffee
beans that are brown in some lights - like chocolate - and red in
others - like cinnamon hearts. So if the glass is available for
commercial beads - it should be available somewhere for
flameworking. ;-)

[Tina]

Aha, You did say wine not wind. My bad.

I do have some beads made by Nicole Weltch of Black Cat Beads (moved
from Sacramento, CA to somewhere near Pheonix, AZ a few years ago) in
that glass that shifts from pink to green. The green is nice, but the
pink is not very pink. Both are pastel. They're fun.

Tina

Post by Dwyn

Yeah, I remember the mood rings.  They never had very good colors.
And these beads look nice, but I like having more control of the
colours in a composition than a range from purple through to orange!
What colour shift beads are there besides the "alexandrite"?  I'd love
something in the blue green range but have never seen that.
I didn't know about the propane tank level indicators.  And you say
they use that technology for wind-chill?  Fairbanks, and especially my
place, has very little wind, so I've never really paid much attention
to that.  But you get that nasty wind off Lake Superior in
Scarborough, don't you.

Did I say wind-chill? Oops - WINE-temperature. What a difference one
measly letter makes! LOL
In glass - Alexandrite - blue to mauve. Effetre calls it Lavendar, I
think. Two shades - the darker one is really nice - beautiful for
encasing - as it doesn't scum. Gorgeous glass.
There is also a pink / green shift in the bullseye glass - Called
Rhubarb.
Swarovski beads have the Alexandrite blue pink shift. and they have a
colour called Cantalope that is a green pink shift that also looks
greyish in some lights.
CiM glass has Larkspur and Count Von Count is pink / blue.  And Crocus
is a pink green shift.
And I recently ran across some commercial beads shaped like coffee
beans that are brown in some lights - like chocolate - and red in
others - like cinnamon hearts. So if the glass is available for
commercial beads - it should be available somewhere for
flameworking. ;-)

[Dwyn]

Aha, You did say wine not wind.  My bad.
I do have some beads made by Nicole Weltch of Black Cat Beads (moved
from Sacramento, CA to somewhere near Pheonix, AZ a few years ago) in
that glass that shifts from pink to green.  The green is nice, but the
pink is not very pink.  Both are pastel.  They're fun.
Tina

It does make designing jewelry with them a challenge. Trying to make
sure the colours work in all lights! That's why I was so pleasantly
surprised that the mood beads worked with one of the lampwork beads -
it had just enough of the right colours to work with all the
colours!!!

[Tina]

What a hard decision!

Those pain decisions often have no good solution. I wish the docs
would give Pete stronger meds, but on the other hand getting rid of
the pain leaves very little self-awareness sometimes. Whatever you
decide, Shirley, my prayers are with you.

Tina

Post by Shirley Shone

whatever hope this finds you feeling good.  I know you have tried to
revive the group and I truly thought you might have succeeded but after
a few posts, Nothing!!!  I do beaded cabs but have to admit so busy
trying to clear out years of craft supplies that haven't touched a bead
(except to buy more) for months!!!! It is an addiction!!!
Marilee

Well it is morning now and I have just struggled to get up.
I too have done many crafts in the past and am trying to get rid of some
of the things I have. I know I shall never do some of them anymore.
Since my health as deteriorated over the last 18 months. Been rushed in
hospital 5 times with heart problems. I have another cross to bear.
The results of my MRI scan two weeks ago showed that I have a bulging
disc in my spine in the lumber region. That is the cause of the
excruciating back and leg pains I have been suffering for 10 months.
The only solution is surgery but alas my heart may not stand up to it.
A tough decision to make, risk my life or be in pain for the rest of it.
I have been to an osteopath but he cannot help me.
So I keep myself busy with Genealogy and occasional beadwork.
Any one can feel free to e-mail me and I will reply when I can.
Address below,
Hugs
Shirley
--
Shirley Shone

[Valerie]

Shirley,

You just described my life. After a failed discectomy in January I now
suffer from what is commonly called a recurrent or recurring disc.
Surgery isn't the only option!! There are wonderful nerve meds called
Gababpentin and Lyrica that help with the awful pain. It does make you
sleepy, but as far as I know there aren't many meds that interact with
it. I take 2400mg per day (it's the max dose that is effective), but
they would start you out a lot lower. Please ask your dr about these
meds. They are also used for seizures and fibro pain and can be taken
long term. The side effects do lessen in time, and IMO are worth it for
the relief it brings. Every dosage increase I'm a zombie for a few days;
but that passes.

I'm in the process of trying to get a spinal cord stimulator. That is a
surgery, and one of last resort with my insurance I think. But it is
either that or a fusion and with me being still so young, neither I or
my dr want me to have one if it can be helped. It will probably just
cause problems later.

If you want to talk further, please contact me! Remove the REMOVE in my
email address and you've got me. :) I've had years of this type of pain,
and have done the gamut of treatment. Don't let them tell you that your
only option is surgery because it isn't. You can have a variety of
injections, and even something where they kill off some of the
non-needed nerves with heat that are there to do nothing but cause pain
(I forget the name of the treatment, but I had it done).

Valerie
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http://valeriesews.blogspot.com

Post by Shirley Shone

Post by Marilee M
Good morning Shirley! Well have no idea what time it is in England, but
whatever hope this finds you feeling good. I know you have tried to
revive the group and I truly thought you might have succeeded but after
a few posts, Nothing!!! I do beaded cabs but have to admit so busy
trying to clear out years of craft supplies that haven't touched a bead
(except to buy more) for months!!!! It is an addiction!!!
Marilee

Well it is morning now and I have just struggled to get up.
I too have done many crafts in the past and am trying to get rid of some
of the things I have. I know I shall never do some of them anymore.
Since my health as deteriorated over the last 18 months. Been rushed in
hospital 5 times with heart problems. I have another cross to bear.
The results of my MRI scan two weeks ago showed that I have a bulging
disc in my spine in the lumber region. That is the cause of the
excruciating back and leg pains I have been suffering for 10 months.
The only solution is surgery but alas my heart may not stand up to it.
A tough decision to make, risk my life or be in pain for the rest of it.
I have been to an osteopath but he cannot help me.
So I keep myself busy with Genealogy and occasional beadwork.
Any one can feel free to e-mail me and I will reply when I can.
Address below,
Hugs
Shirley

[Tina]

I sure can elate to that!

I started to get at my beads last March or April. You know, time to
use it or lose it.

Actually, I got a whole pile of necklaces done. About 60 or 70 done!
Some are wonderful, but some are just done so that my supplies get
used. Most don't have near as much silver as I've used in the past.
Of course, I also figure that I can get more silver and restring them
later too.

But when I say "done", I mean they are strung. Most of them don't have
clasps, and only a few have descriptions and prices. And that doesn't
include the next step of actually selling them either!

But since mid April I've been battling gov't and insurance agencies
for Pete's disability. :-( Damn, if you're disabled it's impossible
to jump through all the hoops to get benefits or medical care.

Tina

Good morning Shirley!  Well have no idea what time it is in England, but
whatever hope this finds you feeling good.  I know you have tried to
revive the group and I truly thought you might have succeeded but after
a few posts, Nothing!!!  I do beaded cabs but have to admit so busy
trying to clear out years of craft supplies that haven't touched a bead
(except to buy more) for months!!!! It is an addiction!!!
Marilee