suggestions needed

[Karin Cernik]

I made a number of illusion necklaces, using Gudebrod illusion cord, .10
diameter, and sterling or gold filled minicrimps (2x1) to hold the
pearls and/or swarovski in place. They are breaking at an alarming rate
- the cord is getting cut by the crimps, I assume, judging from where
they are breaking. This would be fine, if it only happened when I was
making them, but I've had two break in customer's hands when they put
them on at home. (One was a donation to a charity auction.)

What am I doing wrong? I assumed that illusion cord was meant to be
used with the crimps (I'm just mashing them flat, as stations, not using
a mini-crimp plier (don't have one) to crimp them per normal.) Should I
just pitch the 5 rolls of this I have in the trash? And recall all my
necklaces? Should I be making these differently somehow? What can I do
with the supplies I have on hand, or what should I be buying to use
instead?

Thanks very much for any assistance/suggestions you can offer. These
have been very popular, but they're not going to be for much longer at
this rate. I'm terrified that the one I sent my sil for her big
Christmas bash this Saturday is going to do the same thing - and she
lives 400 miles away, kind of hard to fix that evening...

Karin

[Barbara Forbes-Lyons]

Karin,

I use a dab of glue, especially made for use with illusion cord. I got it
from the Wigjig folks.

HTH..and sorry this is happening to you.
--
Barbara
www.penguintrax.com

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Post by Karin Cernik
I made a number of illusion necklaces, using Gudebrod illusion cord, .10
diameter, and sterling or gold filled minicrimps (2x1) to hold the
pearls and/or swarovski in place. They are breaking at an alarming rate
- the cord is getting cut by the crimps, I assume, judging from where
they are breaking. This would be fine, if it only happened when I was
making them, but I've had two break in customer's hands when they put
them on at home. (One was a donation to a charity auction.)
What am I doing wrong? I assumed that illusion cord was meant to be
used with the crimps (I'm just mashing them flat, as stations, not using
a mini-crimp plier (don't have one) to crimp them per normal.) Should I
just pitch the 5 rolls of this I have in the trash? And recall all my
necklaces? Should I be making these differently somehow? What can I do
with the supplies I have on hand, or what should I be buying to use
instead?
Thanks very much for any assistance/suggestions you can offer. These
have been very popular, but they're not going to be for much longer at
this rate. I'm terrified that the one I sent my sil for her big
Christmas bash this Saturday is going to do the same thing - and she
lives 400 miles away, kind of hard to fix that evening...
Karin

[Karin Cernik]

Barbara,
Thanks for the suggestion... how long does it take to dry? I can't
imagine trying to put 20 beads on a cord and glueing each one. Do you
put the glue under the bead, or on each side like the crimps?

Karin

Post by Barbara Forbes-Lyons
Karin,
I use a dab of glue, especially made for use with illusion cord. I got it
from the Wigjig folks.
HTH..and sorry this is happening to you.
--
Barbara
www.penguintrax.com
eBay: pnguintrax
Justbeads:penguintrax
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Post by Karin Cernik
I made a number of illusion necklaces, using Gudebrod illusion cord, .10
diameter, and sterling or gold filled minicrimps (2x1) to hold the
pearls and/or swarovski in place. They are breaking at an alarming rate
- the cord is getting cut by the crimps, I assume, judging from where
they are breaking. This would be fine, if it only happened when I was
making them, but I've had two break in customer's hands when they put
them on at home. (One was a donation to a charity auction.)
What am I doing wrong? I assumed that illusion cord was meant to be
used with the crimps (I'm just mashing them flat, as stations, not using
a mini-crimp plier (don't have one) to crimp them per normal.) Should I
just pitch the 5 rolls of this I have in the trash? And recall all my
necklaces? Should I be making these differently somehow? What can I do
with the supplies I have on hand, or what should I be buying to use
instead?
Thanks very much for any assistance/suggestions you can offer. These
have been very popular, but they're not going to be for much longer at
this rate. I'm terrified that the one I sent my sil for her big
Christmas bash this Saturday is going to do the same thing - and she
lives 400 miles away, kind of hard to fix that evening...
Karin

[Barbara Forbes-Lyons]

Doesn't take long to dry and it's a type of super-glue. I put a dab on the
cord and slide the bead over it.
--
Barbara
www.penguintrax.com

eBay: pnguintrax
Justbeads:penguintrax

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Post by Karin Cernik
Barbara,
Thanks for the suggestion... how long does it take to dry? I can't
imagine trying to put 20 beads on a cord and glueing each one. Do you
put the glue under the bead, or on each side like the crimps?
Karin

Post by Barbara Forbes-Lyons
Karin,
I use a dab of glue, especially made for use with illusion cord. I got it
from the Wigjig folks.
HTH..and sorry this is happening to you.
--
Barbara
www.penguintrax.com
eBay: pnguintrax
Justbeads:penguintrax
<0
/O\
<><>
Need web hosting? Check out http://www.lyonshost.com

Post by Karin Cernik
I made a number of illusion necklaces, using Gudebrod illusion cord, .10
diameter, and sterling or gold filled minicrimps (2x1) to hold the
pearls and/or swarovski in place. They are breaking at an alarming rate
- the cord is getting cut by the crimps, I assume, judging from where
they are breaking. This would be fine, if it only happened when I was
making them, but I've had two break in customer's hands when they put
them on at home. (One was a donation to a charity auction.)
What am I doing wrong? I assumed that illusion cord was meant to be
used with the crimps (I'm just mashing them flat, as stations, not using
a mini-crimp plier (don't have one) to crimp them per normal.) Should I
just pitch the 5 rolls of this I have in the trash? And recall all my
necklaces? Should I be making these differently somehow? What can I do
with the supplies I have on hand, or what should I be buying to use
instead?
Thanks very much for any assistance/suggestions you can offer. These
have been very popular, but they're not going to be for much longer at
this rate. I'm terrified that the one I sent my sil for her big
Christmas bash this Saturday is going to do the same thing - and she
lives 400 miles away, kind of hard to fix that evening...
Karin

[Kyla]

In one of my magazines, it shows to thread on a little seed bead, then your
larger bead, and another seed bead. Then take the cord back, bypassing the
last seed, through the larger bead & first seed. Bypass the seed you just
went through, and take it back through the large bead, and the last seed.
(Does that make sense? It was easier with the diagram! ;o)

I don't know if this works; I guess it would depend on how thick your cord
is. Just another way I've seen it done :o)
--
Kyla ~HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!~

Post by Karin Cernik
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Should I be making these differently somehow? What can I do

Post by Karin Cernik
with the supplies I have on hand, or what should I be buying to use
instead?
Thanks very much for any assistance/suggestions you can offer.
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Karin

[vj]

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Kyla"
<***@sbcglobal.net> :

]In one of my magazines, it shows to thread on a little seed bead, then your
]larger bead, and another seed bead. Then take the cord back, bypassing the
]last seed, through the larger bead & first seed. Bypass the seed you just
]went through, and take it back through the large bead, and the last seed.
](Does that make sense? It was easier with the diagram! ;o)

yes, it makes sense - GOOD idea!


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[Karin Cernik]

Kyla
Thanks for the suggestion. I've seen where they say to just wrap the
cord back through the bead, but I don't like the look of it going over
it....
Guess this is going to take some more thought...

Thanks
Karin

Post by Kyla
In one of my magazines, it shows to thread on a little seed bead, then your
larger bead, and another seed bead. Then take the cord back, bypassing the
last seed, through the larger bead & first seed. Bypass the seed you just
went through, and take it back through the large bead, and the last seed.
(Does that make sense? It was easier with the diagram! ;o)
I don't know if this works; I guess it would depend on how thick your cord
is. Just another way I've seen it done :o)
--
Kyla ~HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME!~

Post by Karin Cernik
snip<

Should I be making these differently somehow? What can I do

Post by Karin Cernik
with the supplies I have on hand, or what should I be buying to use
instead?
Thanks very much for any assistance/suggestions you can offer.
snip<>
Karin

[BeckiBead]

I tie knots on either side instead of crimping or gluing. Takes more technique
but nothing breaks. I have never done it with plastic (fishing line or cord)
because I don't want a necklace made of that, but I would imagine it would
work.


Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

[Karin Cernik]

I thought about knots, but doesn't it alter the way the cord lies? It
kinks fairly easily, I would think the direction it comes out of the
knot would affect the drape of the necklace...

I guess I'd best just recall all of these and quit making them... too
bad, they were quite popular....

Anyone want 5 rolls of Gudebrod illusion cord cheap? :-) (just
kidding, sort of...)

Karin

Post by BeckiBead
I tie knots on either side instead of crimping or gluing. Takes more technique
but nothing breaks. I have never done it with plastic (fishing line or cord)
because I don't want a necklace made of that, but I would imagine it would
work.
Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

[BeckiBead]

Karin -- I made a couple of illusion-like necklaces only on black cord, with
like 3 or 4 beads, knots on both sides. They were very, very sexy. Just try
using better materials.


Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

[Karin Cernik]

Thanks Becki. I thought I *was* using good materials - sterling,
gold-filled, and Gudebrod cord - supposedly they make good stuff.

The cord has possibilities... I also ordered some of the SoftFlex 24kt
gold today. That will look nice for those who want gold. Still not
quite sure what to do about silver...

Karin

Post by BeckiBead
Karin -- I made a couple of illusion-like necklaces only on black cord, with
like 3 or 4 beads, knots on both sides. They were very, very sexy. Just try
using better materials.
Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows

[mªdcªt]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:55:51 GMT, Karin Cernik

Post by Karin Cernik
Thanks Becki. I thought I *was* using good materials - sterling,
gold-filled, and Gudebrod cord - supposedly they make good stuff.
The cord has possibilities... I also ordered some of the SoftFlex 24kt
gold today. That will look nice for those who want gold.

That stuff is niiiiiiiiice. :Þ~~

I cut a length of 0.24 and put a lobsterclaw clasp on one end and a
loop on the other, secured with g.f crimps. I slid a bezel set CZ
(rescued from a broken earring) on, and I now have a really nice
looking slider pendant. :D

My only concern is if someone tries to snatch it from my neck -
cheesecutter, anyone? :P

Post by Karin Cernik
Still not quite sure what to do about silver...

I would appreciate any suggestions as to something similar to the 24kt
plated gold wire in silver. Best I can find so far is silver(ish!)
tigertail... :(

[Kathy N-V]

Post by mªdcªt
My only concern is if someone tries to snatch it from my neck -
cheesecutter, anyone? :P

Slip a jump ring in between the loop at the end of the wire and your clasp.
That way, the necklace will give way before you get decapitated. No necklace
is worth your health.

Kathy N-V

[vj]

vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V
<***@hotmail.com> :

]Slip a jump ring in between the loop at the end of the wire and your clasp.
]That way, the necklace will give way before you get decapitated. No necklace
]is worth your health.

thanks, Kathy!
i've been worrying about that since she posted it!!!


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it's what you leave behind you when you go. -- Randy Travis

[mªdcªt]

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 1:04:37 -0500, Kathy N-V

Post by Kathy N-V

Post by mªdcªt
My only concern is if someone tries to snatch it from my neck -
cheesecutter, anyone? :P

Slip a jump ring in between the loop at the end of the wire and your clasp.
That way, the necklace will give way before you get decapitated. No necklace
is worth your health.

Thanks for that suggestion. :)

Should have been obvious to moi.... :P

[Barbara Otterson]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 20:23:43 GMT, Karin Cernik

Post by Karin Cernik
Kyla
Thanks for the suggestion. I've seen where they say to just wrap the
cord back through the bead, but I don't like the look of it going over
it....
Guess this is going to take some more thought...

My niece made me one using the glue. Within a
year 5 of the 30 beads on the necklace were loose.
And I never wore it. Not my style. I just noticed it
when I picked it up.
Barbara
Dream Master
www.dreamweaverstudio.com

Autumn is a second spring when every leaf is a flower.
~~ Albert Camus

[BeckiBead]

And sweetie, try a dab of a heavy glue, like E2000 or one of those. They dry
quickly and could not possibly cut through your cord.


Becki
"In between the moon and you, the angels have a better view of the crumbling
difference between wrong and right." -- Counting Crows